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	<title>Comments on: Why I Give Money To Beggars And The Answer To &#8216;Did Singaporeans Really Win The Medal?&#8217; [Part One]</title>
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		<title>By: matchpoint</title>
		<link>http://ian.onthereddot.com/2008/08/18/why-i-give-money-to-beggars-and-the-answer-to-did-singaporeans-really-win-the-medal-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-9516</link>
		<dc:creator>matchpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would li defeat wang nan in the 2004 olympic quaterfinals when china was hoping that wang nan would strike gold again ?
why would li let her future son be singaporean ?

forget about what li said in the video, to me, i see li as someone who sees herself as singaporean, but as still has some feelings for china. like me, my mother is a malaysian and i go back to malaysia often, im guessing that li feels the same way to. besides, she did tell the newspaper that : 我觉得虽然自己是一个从中国来的人，可是我能有今天那么好的成绩是因为有了新加坡

if all of that doesn’t tell you that she’s a singaporean, i don’t know what will. the tears after li lost to guo and feng lost to zhang already allows idiots to know that they want to win. go ahead and scream ‘ ITS FOR THE MONEY ! ‘ when you know that the are already rich enough to go on shopping sprees whenever they wish, it just shows how shallow and stupid you are to judge people just because they were not born in the country that they represent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would li defeat wang nan in the 2004 olympic quaterfinals when china was hoping that wang nan would strike gold again ?<br />
why would li let her future son be singaporean ?</p>
<p>forget about what li said in the video, to me, i see li as someone who sees herself as singaporean, but as still has some feelings for china. like me, my mother is a malaysian and i go back to malaysia often, im guessing that li feels the same way to. besides, she did tell the newspaper that : 我觉得虽然自己是一个从中国来的人，可是我能有今天那么好的成绩是因为有了新加坡</p>
<p>if all of that doesn’t tell you that she’s a singaporean, i don’t know what will. the tears after li lost to guo and feng lost to zhang already allows idiots to know that they want to win. go ahead and scream ‘ ITS FOR THE MONEY ! ‘ when you know that the are already rich enough to go on shopping sprees whenever they wish, it just shows how shallow and stupid you are to judge people just because they were not born in the country that they represent</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 34</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No World Cup, Olympic Silver Will Do! - The Void Deck: Flash: Silver Siah! - Ian On The Red Dot: Why I Give Money To Beggars And The Answer To ‘Did Singaporeans Really Win The Medal?’ [Part One... - Hard Hitting in the Lion City: Desperately seeking Singaporean-ess - Hear Ye! Hear Ye!: Taking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eadric</title>
		<link>http://ian.onthereddot.com/2008/08/18/why-i-give-money-to-beggars-and-the-answer-to-did-singaporeans-really-win-the-medal-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-7000</link>
		<dc:creator>Eadric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, china or not china, singapore or not singapore I feel it doesn&#039;t matter. What I&#039;m more concerned is whether they&#039;re even interested in training locals as well...did they scout for FT because they couldn&#039;t find local talents? or they simply assumed they aren&#039;t any local talents?

I wonder by spendin&#039; $$$ to import and train foreign sporting talents, will they be neglecting locals who might have potential? I mean, thinking from a singaporean point of view who wants to score points with the system...wouldn&#039;t I focus all my attention on the imported FT just to prove that my scouting abilities was accurate and on the spot so my place as a scout is more secure? And hey, import FT need $$, locals no need $$, so to make my money&#039;s worth, I&#039;ll train the FT from cmi until can make it. Even if train already still cannot make it, i&#039;ll whip until can make it. I seriously wonder if they&#039;re neglecting local &#039;potentials&#039;? (If any)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, china or not china, singapore or not singapore I feel it doesn&#8217;t matter. What I&#8217;m more concerned is whether they&#8217;re even interested in training locals as well&#8230;did they scout for FT because they couldn&#8217;t find local talents? or they simply assumed they aren&#8217;t any local talents?</p>
<p>I wonder by spendin&#8217; $$$ to import and train foreign sporting talents, will they be neglecting locals who might have potential? I mean, thinking from a singaporean point of view who wants to score points with the system&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t I focus all my attention on the imported FT just to prove that my scouting abilities was accurate and on the spot so my place as a scout is more secure? And hey, import FT need $$, locals no need $$, so to make my money&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ll train the FT from cmi until can make it. Even if train already still cannot make it, i&#8217;ll whip until can make it. I seriously wonder if they&#8217;re neglecting local &#8216;potentials&#8217;? (If any)</p>
<p>-E-</p>
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		<title>By: iantimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iantimothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@IrCTP - born in China.  Sure.  But that doesn&#039;t mean their cases are the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IrCTP &#8211; born in China.  Sure.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean their cases are the same.</p>
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		<title>By: IrCTP</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrCTP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yin: Tan Howe Liang was born in China, not Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yin: Tan Howe Liang was born in China, not Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: iantimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iantimothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello @randomreader.  Thanks for sharing. 

Did you manage to read what Honeymeow wrote above?  I think what her husband did is damn classy.  We can learn from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello @randomreader.  Thanks for sharing. </p>
<p>Did you manage to read what Honeymeow wrote above?  I think what her husband did is damn classy.  We can learn from that.</p>
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		<title>By: randomreader</title>
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		<dc:creator>randomreader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was touched by what you said about the begger-issue, because you articulated what i felt so perfectly.

as for the silver medal, i&#039;m still undecided. perhaps it&#039;s a job for them, or a calling, or something. but i suppose we can never know what&#039;s in their hearts.  maybe in a few years time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was touched by what you said about the begger-issue, because you articulated what i felt so perfectly.</p>
<p>as for the silver medal, i&#8217;m still undecided. perhaps it&#8217;s a job for them, or a calling, or something. but i suppose we can never know what&#8217;s in their hearts.  maybe in a few years time!</p>
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		<title>By: thatbottle</title>
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		<dc:creator>thatbottle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://thatbottle.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/so-what-if-the-singapores-table-tennis-team-get-the-olympic-gold/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;so what if...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thatbottle.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/so-what-if-the-singapores-table-tennis-team-get-the-olympic-gold/" rel="nofollow">so what if&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ruinan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy : My reply is not a standard one. My reply is an objective one.

You are only looking at the issue from that point of view because you were not entrusted with the task of bringing sports forward in the country.

I&#039;m not sure if you know the selection procedure for table tennis players to represent Singapore. But anyway if you care to find out, there are procedures and those that are choosen to represent Singapore are because they are the best in the country. It is not because they come from China. They hold national championships record for a while. This proved that they deserved to be in the national team. They have taken the places which otherwise belonged to Singaporeans who were born in Singapore but if we&#039;re gonna send a real Singapore team only to be thrashed big time, then I rather they don&#039;t go because there is no honour in that.

If you look at emerging sports scene around the world, it is common practice to buy talent from foreign grounds. Japan did so in 1993 when they started their J-League when they bought Brazilians. France national team today are half made up of African players. There is nothing wrong to buy talent to speed up your advancement and close the gap. In economics world, China bought IBM because they wanted to close the gap at double quick time.  It would had taken them a lot more time if they were to do eveything by themselves. 
It&#039;s all about objectivity. Japan wanted to form a team capable of bringing them to the world cup. That was their objective, they were gonna do it at all cost. They built 20 stadiums, spent 5 billions and they made it. The point is they made it. Everything else is history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy : My reply is not a standard one. My reply is an objective one.</p>
<p>You are only looking at the issue from that point of view because you were not entrusted with the task of bringing sports forward in the country.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you know the selection procedure for table tennis players to represent Singapore. But anyway if you care to find out, there are procedures and those that are choosen to represent Singapore are because they are the best in the country. It is not because they come from China. They hold national championships record for a while. This proved that they deserved to be in the national team. They have taken the places which otherwise belonged to Singaporeans who were born in Singapore but if we&#8217;re gonna send a real Singapore team only to be thrashed big time, then I rather they don&#8217;t go because there is no honour in that.</p>
<p>If you look at emerging sports scene around the world, it is common practice to buy talent from foreign grounds. Japan did so in 1993 when they started their J-League when they bought Brazilians. France national team today are half made up of African players. There is nothing wrong to buy talent to speed up your advancement and close the gap. In economics world, China bought IBM because they wanted to close the gap at double quick time.  It would had taken them a lot more time if they were to do eveything by themselves.<br />
It&#8217;s all about objectivity. Japan wanted to form a team capable of bringing them to the world cup. That was their objective, they were gonna do it at all cost. They built 20 stadiums, spent 5 billions and they made it. The point is they made it. Everything else is history.</p>
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		<title>By: Neutrinos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neutrinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MysticLaw: At the end of the day, if we want to take part in a competition, it’s all about winning. If you can’t win, nothing else matters.

I always felt this school of thought to be particularly ruinous. Similar to: Not good enough? Don&#039;t take part. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MysticLaw: At the end of the day, if we want to take part in a competition, it’s all about winning. If you can’t win, nothing else matters.</p>
<p>I always felt this school of thought to be particularly ruinous. Similar to: Not good enough? Don&#8217;t take part. Sigh.</p>
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