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		<title>By: Michael Low</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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February 26, 2010 at 4:52 am 
Benny Hinn has been regularly invited to speak at Kong Hee’s CHC conferences. Hinn has been known for daring to curse those who criticise his ministry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFQKVddzhO4&amp;feature=related

But what has happened now? Hinn’s wife Suzanne has sued him for divorce. Fuuny for a man well-known as a healer but cannot heal his wife’s tormented heart. He is called a prophet but he cannot predict his own marriage breakup. So how??</description>
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February 26, 2010 at 4:52 am<br />
Benny Hinn has been regularly invited to speak at Kong Hee’s CHC conferences. Hinn has been known for daring to curse those who criticise his ministry. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFQKVddzhO4&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFQKVddzhO4&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>But what has happened now? Hinn’s wife Suzanne has sued him for divorce. Fuuny for a man well-known as a healer but cannot heal his wife’s tormented heart. He is called a prophet but he cannot predict his own marriage breakup. So how??</p>
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		<title>By: iantimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iantimothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica, of course this post is based on my opinion.  Without justification?  That&#039;s funny ... I thought this post was based on my experience.

5 &gt; 2 if you are talking about absolute numbers.  But I&#039;m not.  The number was just to provide an indication of the length of time I immersed myself in CHC.

Quantity versus Quality.  In any case, this isn&#039;t disputing whatever insights you have about the church due to your much longer 5 years.  So let&#039;s stop this whole long-dick-short-dick waving.  It is unbecoming for a lady like you.

Anyway, just because I disagree does not make me self-righteous or ignorant.  Rather, if I may be so bold, the people who attack CHC without having once been part of it are the ones who are self-righteous and ignorant.

Of course it isn&#039;t necessary to be part of CHC to be granted the right to be critical of it.  The question I ask is whether most people who are critical of it do so because they are familiar with only another kind of church.  To me, such people are the ones who are self-righteous and ignorant.

And yes, I do know many such people.  Unfortunately, I didn&#039;t do a formal survey so I can&#039;t provide any statistics to make my opinion more than 2 cents for you.

Now, how much do I know?  Well, if the root is at the top, then, I won&#039;t know much although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if a certain malaise has befallen the church leaders.  After all, if you are Satan, who would you want to attack to be more effective.  DUH.

But I do know what I know based on my experience with my cell-group and cluster from CHC is that my experience as a Christian in that environment has been entirely more positive than attending a family church for 19 years of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica, of course this post is based on my opinion.  Without justification?  That&#8217;s funny &#8230; I thought this post was based on my experience.</p>
<p>5 > 2 if you are talking about absolute numbers.  But I&#8217;m not.  The number was just to provide an indication of the length of time I immersed myself in CHC.</p>
<p>Quantity versus Quality.  In any case, this isn&#8217;t disputing whatever insights you have about the church due to your much longer 5 years.  So let&#8217;s stop this whole long-dick-short-dick waving.  It is unbecoming for a lady like you.</p>
<p>Anyway, just because I disagree does not make me self-righteous or ignorant.  Rather, if I may be so bold, the people who attack CHC without having once been part of it are the ones who are self-righteous and ignorant.</p>
<p>Of course it isn&#8217;t necessary to be part of CHC to be granted the right to be critical of it.  The question I ask is whether most people who are critical of it do so because they are familiar with only another kind of church.  To me, such people are the ones who are self-righteous and ignorant.</p>
<p>And yes, I do know many such people.  Unfortunately, I didn&#8217;t do a formal survey so I can&#8217;t provide any statistics to make my opinion more than 2 cents for you.</p>
<p>Now, how much do I know?  Well, if the root is at the top, then, I won&#8217;t know much although I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if a certain malaise has befallen the church leaders.  After all, if you are Satan, who would you want to attack to be more effective.  DUH.</p>
<p>But I do know what I know based on my experience with my cell-group and cluster from CHC is that my experience as a Christian in that environment has been entirely more positive than attending a family church for 19 years of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in City Harvest Church for 5 years. No doubt that I have experienced warmth and love, but hypocrisy and self-righteousness outweigh the &#039;love&#039; that they have shown.

What is &quot;two years being a member&quot; to me? 2 years is undoubtedly very little. I used to stand up for City Harvest Church too, but dear child, self-righteousness and ignorance don&#039;t do you any good. How much do you know anyway? The whole post is based on your two cents&#039; worth opinion without justification too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in City Harvest Church for 5 years. No doubt that I have experienced warmth and love, but hypocrisy and self-righteousness outweigh the &#8216;love&#8217; that they have shown.</p>
<p>What is &#8220;two years being a member&#8221; to me? 2 years is undoubtedly very little. I used to stand up for City Harvest Church too, but dear child, self-righteousness and ignorance don&#8217;t do you any good. How much do you know anyway? The whole post is based on your two cents&#8217; worth opinion without justification too.</p>
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		<title>By: iantimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iantimothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@natalie - fair pt about the Pharisees.  But who are we to say are the real ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@natalie &#8211; fair pt about the Pharisees.  But who are we to say are the real ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, the Pharisees are good at fasting, praying, and learning about the Bible. They know the commandment very well, but ....they are the one condemned by Jesus! I think it&#039;s important to bring awareness to the public what CHC is up to, there is just too many controversies around this church, and it&#039;s just not right! 
you can&#039;t say you are a Christian leader and you get to do whatever you want. from a nonChristian&#039;s eyes, CHC isn&#039;t setting a good model!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the Pharisees are good at fasting, praying, and learning about the Bible. They know the commandment very well, but &#8230;.they are the one condemned by Jesus! I think it&#8217;s important to bring awareness to the public what CHC is up to, there is just too many controversies around this church, and it&#8217;s just not right!<br />
you can&#8217;t say you are a Christian leader and you get to do whatever you want. from a nonChristian&#8217;s eyes, CHC isn&#8217;t setting a good model!</p>
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		<title>By: Jes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it was real shocking to find out so much about CHC...
My sister is attending this church.
Her leader really sucks to the core!
Sometimes I guess it&#039;s not the church&#039;s fault!
Perhaps their congregation is too big so somehow any Tom, Dick &amp; Harry could just easily slip in. As a result, it cause heavy &quot;corruption&quot;.
For example, her leader by the name of STEPHANIE SEAH SULING&quot; she is overly controlling my sister in everything she does. Even when that so called leader is at fault, she does not admit. That leader always think that she is right in everything. Sometimes that leader even call her names &amp; put her down in front of others. My poor sister took in every bit of sufferings. I told her many times to change a cell group or even the church but she refuses. She said if she did, her leader will curse her. On one occassion, the leader told her to break off with her boyfriend because the leader said that she is more worthy to be his girlfriend than my sister. How could she said that?! That evil leader is causing my sister a nervous breakdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it was real shocking to find out so much about CHC&#8230;<br />
My sister is attending this church.<br />
Her leader really sucks to the core!<br />
Sometimes I guess it&#8217;s not the church&#8217;s fault!<br />
Perhaps their congregation is too big so somehow any Tom, Dick &amp; Harry could just easily slip in. As a result, it cause heavy &#8220;corruption&#8221;.<br />
For example, her leader by the name of STEPHANIE SEAH SULING&#8221; she is overly controlling my sister in everything she does. Even when that so called leader is at fault, she does not admit. That leader always think that she is right in everything. Sometimes that leader even call her names &amp; put her down in front of others. My poor sister took in every bit of sufferings. I told her many times to change a cell group or even the church but she refuses. She said if she did, her leader will curse her. On one occassion, the leader told her to break off with her boyfriend because the leader said that she is more worthy to be his girlfriend than my sister. How could she said that?! That evil leader is causing my sister a nervous breakdown.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey.Dont Call our church BullShit..EVIL.Stop saying all this things without proof!I&#039;m a christian.Dont say bad things..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey.Dont Call our church BullShit..EVIL.Stop saying all this things without proof!I&#8217;m a christian.Dont say bad things..</p>
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		<title>By: iantimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iantimothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey E, whatever my feelings for CHC, I feel quite strongly against Christianity, or rather, I have issues with God, and thus, I turned away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey E, whatever my feelings for CHC, I feel quite strongly against Christianity, or rather, I have issues with God, and thus, I turned away.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hallo ian,
I&#039;ve read a few of your blog posts regarding CHC. And I must say and can see that you&#039;ve put in a lot of thoughts and efforts in those posts. However what puzzled me is,why did you left CHC or turn away from Christianity as it is apparent from your post that you still have strong feelings for CHC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hallo ian,<br />
I&#8217;ve read a few of your blog posts regarding CHC. And I must say and can see that you&#8217;ve put in a lot of thoughts and efforts in those posts. However what puzzled me is,why did you left CHC or turn away from Christianity as it is apparent from your post that you still have strong feelings for CHC?</p>
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		<title>By: Thy Word is Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thy Word is Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly Kong Hee and City Harvest Church, despite glaring evidences, continues to endorse, support and associate with Benny Hinn including an invitation to Benny Hinn as main speaker during CHC’s Asia Conference in November 2008.

Why does Kong Hee and CHC continues to let their young people be seduced by poison from a false teacher of unbiblical and heretical teachings ?

“Birds of a feather flock together”? Benny is heretical and un-biblical in his teachings…….

Benny Hinn said “When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don’t tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever He shall be. . . . It [the new man] says, ‘I am as He is.’ That’s what it says. As He is, so are we in this world. Jesus said, ‘Go in my name, go in my stead.’ Don’t say, ‘I have.’ Say, ‘I am, I am, I am, I am, I am.’ That’s why you never ever, ever, ever ought to say. ‘I’m sick.’ How can you be sick if you’re the new creation? Say, ‘I’m healed!’ Don’t say, ‘I’m a sinner.’ The new creature is no sinner. I’m the righteousness of God in Christ.” (Benny Hinn, “Our Position in Christ #2–The Word Made Flesh” [Orlando, FL: Orlando Christian Center, 1991], audiotape #A031190-2, side 2)

Check these …………….

BENNY HINN SAYS:
God has 9 parts (tri-theistic).
• A. God has a body, soul and spirit.
• B. Jesus has a body, soul and spirit.
• C. Holy Spirit has a body, soul and spirit.
(Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)
Christians are little messiahs.
Christians are little gods.
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)
(Our position in Christ, Tape #AO31190-1)
Jesus at His death became one with Satan.
(Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 12/15/90)
Poverty comes from Hell.
Prosperity comes from Heaven.
Adam had complete dominion over the earth and all it contains.
• A. Adam could fly like a bird.
• B. Adam could swim underwater and breathe like a fish.
Adam went to the moon.
Adam walked on water.
Adam was a super being, He was the first superman that lived.

Adam had dominion over the sun, moon &amp; stars.
Christians do not have Christ in their hearts.
Sow a big seed, when you confess it, you are activating the supernatural forces of God.
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)
When you don’t give money, it shows that you have the devil’s nature.
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded 4/21/91)
Wants to use Holy Ghost machine gun to kill Heresy Hunters.
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), 11/8/90)

“Jesus became one in nature with Satan”

Benny Hinn: “Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by
becoming one in nature with him…He became one with the nature of Satan, so
all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God.”
“Benny Hinn” program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This
message, titled “The Person of Jesus” [delivered during Orlando Christian
Center&#039;s Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of
Hinn’s six-part series on “The Revelation of Jesus” [Orlando Christian
Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292

Benny Hinn: “When you say, ‘I am a Christian, you are saying, ‘I am
mashiach’ in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other
words That is a shocking revelation…. May I say it like this? You are a
little god on earth running around.” “Praise-a-Thon” program on TBN [6
November 1990]

“Adam was a superman and the first man on the moon”

Benny Hinn: “Adam was a super-being when God created him. I don’t know
whether people know this, but he was the first superman that really ever
lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion
over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea–which means he used to fly.
Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do
what they do? The word ‘dominion’ in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you
have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In
other words, that subject, if it does something you cannot do, you don’t
have dominion over it. I’ll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to
space. He was–with one thought he would be on the moon.”
“Praise the Lord” program on TBN [26 December 1991]

“Jesus had no existence prior to being in the flesh”

Benny Hinn: “The Bible says the prophets spoke the Word not knowing what
they were saying. But 4000 years passed when the Word became a human being
and walked and talked and moved. The spoken Word became a human being. The
spoken Word became flesh. The spoken Word got legs on, arms, eyes, hair, a
body. And He was no longer saying, ‘Thus sayeth the Lord.’ He was saying, ‘I
say unto you.’ The Word that was spoken through the lip [sic] of prophets
was now walking on the seashore of Galilee
“Benny Hinn” program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This
message, titled “The Person of Jesus” [delivered during Orlando Christian
Center&#039;s Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of
Hinn’s six-part series on “The Revelation of Jesus” [Orlando Christian
Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly Kong Hee and City Harvest Church, despite glaring evidences, continues to endorse, support and associate with Benny Hinn including an invitation to Benny Hinn as main speaker during CHC’s Asia Conference in November 2008.</p>
<p>Why does Kong Hee and CHC continues to let their young people be seduced by poison from a false teacher of unbiblical and heretical teachings ?</p>
<p>“Birds of a feather flock together”? Benny is heretical and un-biblical in his teachings…….</p>
<p>Benny Hinn said “When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don’t tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever He shall be. . . . It [the new man] says, ‘I am as He is.’ That’s what it says. As He is, so are we in this world. Jesus said, ‘Go in my name, go in my stead.’ Don’t say, ‘I have.’ Say, ‘I am, I am, I am, I am, I am.’ That’s why you never ever, ever, ever ought to say. ‘I’m sick.’ How can you be sick if you’re the new creation? Say, ‘I’m healed!’ Don’t say, ‘I’m a sinner.’ The new creature is no sinner. I’m the righteousness of God in Christ.” (Benny Hinn, “Our Position in Christ #2–The Word Made Flesh” [Orlando, FL: Orlando Christian Center, 1991], audiotape #A031190-2, side 2)</p>
<p>Check these …………….</p>
<p>BENNY HINN SAYS:<br />
God has 9 parts (tri-theistic).<br />
• A. God has a body, soul and spirit.<br />
• B. Jesus has a body, soul and spirit.<br />
• C. Holy Spirit has a body, soul and spirit.<br />
(Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)<br />
Christians are little messiahs.<br />
Christians are little gods.<br />
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)<br />
(Our position in Christ, Tape #AO31190-1)<br />
Jesus at His death became one with Satan.<br />
(Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 12/15/90)<br />
Poverty comes from Hell.<br />
Prosperity comes from Heaven.<br />
Adam had complete dominion over the earth and all it contains.<br />
• A. Adam could fly like a bird.<br />
• B. Adam could swim underwater and breathe like a fish.<br />
Adam went to the moon.<br />
Adam walked on water.<br />
Adam was a super being, He was the first superman that lived.</p>
<p>Adam had dominion over the sun, moon &amp; stars.<br />
Christians do not have Christ in their hearts.<br />
Sow a big seed, when you confess it, you are activating the supernatural forces of God.<br />
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)<br />
When you don’t give money, it shows that you have the devil’s nature.<br />
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded 4/21/91)<br />
Wants to use Holy Ghost machine gun to kill Heresy Hunters.<br />
(Praise-a-thon (TBN), 11/8/90)</p>
<p>“Jesus became one in nature with Satan”</p>
<p>Benny Hinn: “Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by<br />
becoming one in nature with him…He became one with the nature of Satan, so<br />
all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God.”<br />
“Benny Hinn” program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This<br />
message, titled “The Person of Jesus” [delivered during Orlando Christian<br />
Center's Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of<br />
Hinn’s six-part series on “The Revelation of Jesus” [Orlando Christian<br />
Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292</p>
<p>Benny Hinn: “When you say, ‘I am a Christian, you are saying, ‘I am<br />
mashiach’ in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other<br />
words That is a shocking revelation…. May I say it like this? You are a<br />
little god on earth running around.” “Praise-a-Thon” program on TBN [6<br />
November 1990]</p>
<p>“Adam was a superman and the first man on the moon”</p>
<p>Benny Hinn: “Adam was a super-being when God created him. I don’t know<br />
whether people know this, but he was the first superman that really ever<br />
lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion<br />
over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea–which means he used to fly.<br />
Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do<br />
what they do? The word ‘dominion’ in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you<br />
have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In<br />
other words, that subject, if it does something you cannot do, you don’t<br />
have dominion over it. I’ll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to<br />
space. He was–with one thought he would be on the moon.”<br />
“Praise the Lord” program on TBN [26 December 1991]</p>
<p>“Jesus had no existence prior to being in the flesh”</p>
<p>Benny Hinn: “The Bible says the prophets spoke the Word not knowing what<br />
they were saying. But 4000 years passed when the Word became a human being<br />
and walked and talked and moved. The spoken Word became a human being. The<br />
spoken Word became flesh. The spoken Word got legs on, arms, eyes, hair, a<br />
body. And He was no longer saying, ‘Thus sayeth the Lord.’ He was saying, ‘I<br />
say unto you.’ The Word that was spoken through the lip [sic] of prophets<br />
was now walking on the seashore of Galilee<br />
“Benny Hinn” program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This<br />
message, titled “The Person of Jesus” [delivered during Orlando Christian<br />
Center's Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of<br />
Hinn’s six-part series on “The Revelation of Jesus” [Orlando Christian<br />
Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292</p>
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